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Author Topic: Reference Time: The Myth Makers  (Read 857 times)
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« on: September 06, 2009, 03:11:59 PM »

Let's take our inspiration from the Loose Cannon recon of the story. I only have partial information here, but will note it when I have it, based on my best information.

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Francis de Wolff plays Agamemnon. He appeared in the 1962 movie Carry On Cleo, wearing, remarkably, the same costume that he would wear in The Myth Makers 3 years later. He has, essentially, one scene, but pulls a number of faces during it.

This made Loose Cannon's job easier than usual. In the film you can see his Myth Makers costume in full color - it's white, with a blue cape and sleeves, and gold trim.

Actually, here is his scene as an AVI - 15 MB.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CXVV0P3Y

Francis de Wolff in Carry on Cleo (1962).








[Jon Pertwee also appears in the film, as does Robson from Fury From the Deep, though he's wearing a helmet covering his face. Ola from The Macra Terror also appears, though not in closeup.)

It seems Loose Cannon also used grabs from The Keys of Marinus, in which Francis de Wolff played the brutal Vasor, in episode 4. Both these roles are good reference for this actor.

He later played the evil android Jedikiah in The Tomorrow People. He also appeared in:

"The Saint" The Best Laid Schemes  29 September 1968 (Season 6, Episode 1)

He has about two scenes in this, in color, and is killed. He gets some nice closeups, but in the second scene the lighting is quite dark. In both scenes he's extremely angry, different to Agamemon.

"Danger Man" The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove  17 February 1965 (Season 1, Episode 18)

About two actual photos of Agamemnon exist, showing his costume clearly.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 03:39:15 PM »

Francis de Wolff in Doctor Who: The Keys of Marinus, episode 4.


Francis de Wolff in The Saint series 6 - "The Best Laid Schemes."






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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 03:40:02 PM »

Ivor Salter played Odysseus. He also appeared in:

Danger Man" Such Men Are Dangerous   12 January 1965 (Season 1, Episode 14)
Danger Man" Yesterday's Enemies   13 October 1964 (Season 1, Episode 1)

"The Avengers" Girl on the Trapeze    11 February 1961 (Season 1, Episode 6)

When not playing Odysseus, this younger Ivor Salter looks fatter, has a moustache, and looks relatively nebbishy and non-threatening. This is one of the only surviving episodes from the first Avengers season, and does not feature Patrick MacNee.

Several photos of Odysseus exist, showing his costume clearly.

Ivor Salter (Odysseus) in "The Avengers" Girl on the Trapeze  -  11 February 1961 (Season 1, Episode 6).





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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 03:40:42 PM »

Max Adrian [King Priam] starred in the TV series Up Pompeii!, as Sen. Ludicrus Sextus. This was the source for Loose Cannon. He appeared only in the first series and not in the films.

Also note him in these movies:
Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1965) .... Dr. Blake (segment "Vampire")
The Devils (1971) .... Ibert

About one photo of King Priam exists, showing him from the side. Costume details are not clear.
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Barrie Ingham played Prince Paris.

He previously appeared in the Peter Cushing film Dr. Who and the Daleks (1965) as Alydon, leader of the Thals. However, he's wearing heavy drag-queen makeup in that film, making it fairly useless for reference.

He also appeared in:
Danger Man -  The Vacation 29 January 1961 (Season 1, Episode 20)








He's not in the episode too much, apart from one long car scene. He turns out to be a baddie.

This was not Loose Cannon's source.

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James Lynn played Troilus. He had very few other roles, and for once Loose Cannon actually gave up on this character. There are several photos of him with Cressida, shown from a side view, usually from a worm's eye view. Although not the best angles, Loose Cannon used these in their recon.

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Frances White played Cassandra.

I'm not sure what Loose Cannon's source was, but it shows her as young with long hair.

11 years later, she appeared looking older with her hair up in a bun, in I, Claudius. She's quite excellent in it.

"I, Claudius" .... Julia (2 episodes, 1976)
    - Waiting in the Wings (1976) TV episode .... Julia
    - A Touch of Murder (1976) TV episode .... Julia

I believe Loose Cannon took a lot of their costumes from I, Claudius.

Frances White also appeared in:
Mary, Queen of Scots (1971) .... Mary Fleming

In May 2009, Doctor Who Magazine published its 22nd Special Issue, entitled 200 Golden Moments. Two actual photos of Cassandra appear, showing her in a tiara/coronet headdress and short hair, as well as "poison spike" shoulder brooches.

Previously, no photos of Cassandra were known to exist, and this look for Cassandra is a surprising one, different from how she appeared in Loose Cannon's recon.

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Jack Melford played  Menelaus. He also appeared in:
Lust for a Vampire (1971) .... Bishop

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Cavan Kendall played Achilles.

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Tutte Lemkov (Cyclops) played Kuiju in Season 1's Marco Polo, and Ibrahim in Season 2's The Crusade.

At least one photo of Cyclops exists.

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Alan Haywood played Hector. Loose Cannon used grabs from The Avengers.

"The Avengers" The Gilded Cage  9 November 1963 (Season 3, Episode 7)
"The Avengers" A Chorus of Frogs   9 March 1963 (Season 2, Episode 24)

A Chorus of Frogs is also, strangely, good reference for Polly in The Macra Terror. There's an actress with an identical hairstyle.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2009, 09:31:44 AM »

Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!  Grin


Oh come on. Someone had to do it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2009, 11:41:46 AM »

  I agree.


  So, to carry on further ....


More of Barrie Ingham [Prince Paris] in Danger Man -  The Vacation 29 January 1961 (Season 1, Episode 20)

This is from the first, half-hour Danger Man series.







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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 11:48:04 AM »

I'll apologize for the tiny, tiny screen grabs I'm about to post. They're pretty good quality for their size (and blow up well), but I was having trouble getting Danger Man in its full quality, so I decided to jump the gun and post some smaller web style video grabs, so you get the idea.

Ivor Salter (Odysseus) appeared in two hourlong episodes from the second Danger Man series:

"Danger Man" Such Men Are Dangerous   12 January 1965 (Season 1, Episode 14)
"Danger Man" Yesterday's Enemies   13 October 1964 (Season 1, Episode 1)











He appears at the end of one episode and at the beginning of the other. Although he's a killer in both, he's classy and understated, not a brute.

I'm still not sure what Loose Cannon's source was.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 11:57:18 AM »

"Danger Man" The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove  17 February 1965 (Season 1, Episode 18)

Francis De Wolff [Agamemnon] has a large part in this episode from the second, hourlong Danger Man series. He plays a casino owner who has discovered John Drake's identity, and seeks to blackmail him out of 10 thousand pounds. Cool and sly, De Wolff shows he could have played The Master.

Foreshadowing The Prisoner, the episode ends on a surreal note, revealing that Drake hallucinated the entire hourlong story after a car accident. Several episodes from this run foreshadow the Prisoner a bit, with downbeat endings, but this one in particular shows Drake trapped in a world of people trying to control him. A heartbeat sound features on the soundtrack.











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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 11:58:11 AM »

Francis De Wollf (Agamemnon) in
"Danger Man" The Ubiquitous Mr. Lovegrove  17 February 1965 (Season 1, Episode 18)












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