Mission to the Unknown - Animated

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Re: Mission to the Unknown - Animated

Postby tygerbug » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:12 pm

  FACS is more useful for 3D work surely?


  It's helpful to treat the phoneme system as exaggerated guidelines that you can absorb mentally, and then apply in a much subtler way when doing the actual art. Certainly, actual video footage of the actor in question is invaluable - drawing the way that actor's mouth actually moves for at least a few drawings, rather than just doing generic mouth movements ... which you always end up doing too, but for a very serious artist, moving video footage can be a great help with pinning down the likeness as it appears in motion. Which is why I always try to include a variety of stuff in my Reference Time downloads ....
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Re: Mission to the Unknown - Animated

Postby Celation » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:32 pm

Possibly - but treating animation of speech as a series of shapes for each sound is terribly misleading. Someone could say "Don't know" and the only visual clue you'd have that he'd spoken would be a single slight opening of the mouth.

A phoneme system would suggest that he'd make a "D" followed by an "OH" etc. etc..

And very useful the "Reference Time" downloads are too... Though I always forget where they are. Have you done a Hartnell one yet, BTW?

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Re: Mission to the Unknown - Animated

Postby Adam Bullock » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:29 pm

I'll sort out uploading some of my materials from the project & a full-res version for who3d members in the new year.

Once I've cleared my head of Barry Jackson saying "Ugh - I remember now" over and over*



*Animating complete episodes may have psychotic side-effects

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Re: Mission to the Unknown - Animated

Postby tygerbug » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:01 pm

  Reference Time - always in the Tutorials section.  =)

  Any Hartnell reference would come from the episodes themselves, which I assume people have! .... My Reference Time downloads were really about giving people non-Who reference that they probably haven't seen. I did do a thread called "Reference Time: Doctor Who" ... with some of the best of my reference from the episodes themselves. Certainly I have a ton of screencaps on my HD from the actual episodes! But people can do that themselves I think ...

  I agree about the phonemes not matching what you're actually going to animate, but it's a good guide when you do need to hit a specific sound and have the screentime to do so. Everything just sort of blends together and you choose the shape that feels right I suppose.
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